sparrowdown 4 hours ago
Have JWs written mass letters in defense of the other groups banned in Russia?
Bit like an old fashioned version of a denial of service attack
Have JWs written mass letters in defense of the other groups banned in Russia?
Bit like an old fashioned version of a denial of service attack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.
this is self explanatory.
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I dunno Simon - I just don't see pro-Islam lies and propaganda in Abaddon's posts. I see a well put point of view that is pro-moderate and anti extremist.
The moderates are irrelevant Freddo, Though they are the majority, they don't apply pressure for change. It has been said that the moderates are the ones that hold your legs while the radicals saw your head off
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.
this is self explanatory.
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LUHE - "BTW, if you don't like the West, feel free to fuck off and try your luck living elsewhere ."
Did you see this in the news today - https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/07/netherlands-muslim-politician-says-if-dutch-people-dont-like-a-changing-netherlands-they-should-get-lost
Blown away - You are probably familiar with the Lefty Trump baby balloon flying over London,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.
this is self explanatory.
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Abaddon -
Why are you posting prejudiced shit resolute Bandicoot? And
what if I were a Muslim?
I've no interest in listening to a bigot on YouTube blow off with error after error in his monolog, but quite happy to have a dialog with you if you use your own words to express what you think.
Pat Condell is quite a talented word smith actually, who strikes blow after blow right on target.
I’d be happy to discuss the pro’s and con of Islamic doctrine and history
I find it absolutely hysterical when non-believers take 'holy books' more seriously than the majority of the believers do, as most believers, whether they are Christian or Muslim only take what is convenient to them.
Islam is Mohammed and islam is the quran, mohammed was the perfect man and the perfect example of conduct for all muslims and the quran is the perfect book, the original copy resides in heaven with alah. These are not negotiable corner stones of islam, any nominal muslim who does not submit to this understanding and embrace the full connotations of this is not a muslim.
Look at how the expression of Christianity has changed in two hundred years - not because of any revelation from god, but because secularism and pragmatism has rubbed off the awkward bits and allowed people to ignore large parts of the Bible.
Islam is at the beginning of this process in many countries. Outside of the febrile imaginations of those pushing divisive ideologies, many Muslims in the West are well down this road.
There are some problems with this theory, there are checks and balances built in to prevent reformation, the “gates of Ijtihad” (enquiry into Islamic theology) have been closed since the 10th century. All credit to guys like Zudy Jasser who strive hard in this direction but are huge obstacles
Many people are no doubt puzzled why we sometimes hear about mosques being blown up by other muslims, there are two main reasons for this, firstly the suni / Shiite squabble and secondly, where the imam is a moderate or a reformer.
Put simply if you try to reform islam then you are an apostate and the punishment for apostasy is death.
The fact is culture expresses religion; religion does not express culture.
Have to sharply disagree here, in places where islam holds sway the religion is the culture 100%.
Islam is not just something you do at the mosque on Friday, it is religious system that embraces a legal system that is obliged to create a military system to protect the religious elements. It is also a banking and financial system , an education system, a dietary system, need I go on, how can you say it is not the culture?
This is how nasty, sexist, violent, racist Christian countries changed to far more peaceful and egalitarian ones. The culture changed, and people reinterpreted the religion accordingly (and became more and more nominal believers if not outright atheists). Our great great great grandfathers would consider the education of women nonsense, wife beating and marital rape a man's right, that an unchaperoned woman was a whore, that a woman showing her hair in public was likewise a whore,
Sounds like Islamic law to me
that it was right to impose religion with violence, that slavery was ok, that invading countries for trade or resources or just for land was totally permissible,
Standard Islamic parasitic business model
that god created the world in seven days...The culture in parts of some Muslim countries is basically unchanged from the time of WWII (and in many cases that means it closely resembled the culture in the country two hundred years ago, thus my comparison with great great great grandfathers), in others it has progressed. Immigrants carry cultural values with them, their children possess a blend, their grandchildren begin to resemble the 'norm' for that country. This has happened with almost every immigrant group in the past.
It will happen with Muslims because they are people just like us. The vast majority of the Muslims I have lived, worked and studied with are no more a risk to society than the average nominal member of the C of E, so it is happening, has happened.
Yes many of them appear to be just like us, until you mention mohammed in a bad light and then they try to cut your head off. If you’re not sure about this ask a devout muslim about the disgusting incident of mohammed giving his dead aunty a FWF while she lay dead in her coffin and see how you go.
Don’t be fooled by the outward appearance, how many times have you seen this scenario on the news, there is a jihad attack somewhere and the news guys are interviewing the neighbours of the jihadi, “he was just a normal guy”, “they were mostly quiet and kept to themselves”, “I can’t believe it was him, there were no signs that he was a radical”
As Simon said, “a non muslim defending islam is like a turkey defending Christmas”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.
this is self explanatory.
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Abaddon, are you a muslim?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.
this is self explanatory.
please if you are in a commonwealth country write /phone /fax your local member to support tr release from his current place of imprisonment.. you may not receive any reply but do so anyway.
When did
this Board turn into an anti-Muslim and Tommy Robinson apologist support group?
It is a forum of religious cult survivors, there are many here who are good researches and deep thinker, this is self-evident. Many have spent their entire lives focused on religion – all be it a blinkered view. Islam is the mother of all religious cults, a death cult, the cult of mohammed and like it or not it has a target on your back just as it has on mine, it’s part of islams primary directive (Islam must dominate) that is pursued by orthodox Muslims This is an ideal place for such discussion. I understand if you feel a bit bewildered by discussion of such a foreign ideology as the WT has been little help – they have not published an honest article on the topic since 1951
He is a self-promoting criminal thug and football hooligan who has been in the leadership of several anti-immigrant organisations that attract large numbers of out-and-out racists.
He left the EDL because it was being hijacked by Nazi types. This has happened to similar groups in my country also and it would appear that it is an infiltration by government agencies to discredit and dis empower the group.
In addition, if advanced Western society is to survive, prosper, and not be plummeted deep back into the dark ages, it will be because of people like Tommy who have the intestinal fortitude to stand up and call it out as it is, irrespective of the personal cost. If we should survive, there will be a statue of him some day, alongside Charles Martel.
Last year he was given a suspended sentence for endangering a fair trial. This year he did the same thing again, and is serving 13 months (original sentence plus sentence for reoffending).
He’s gotten exactly what he deserved.
You have not heard half of what he has had to endure, I recommend you read his book – https://www.amazon.com/Tommy-Robinson-Enemy-State/dp/0957096496
if anyone takes the time to research the cases in addition to the fact some pretty marginal Muslims (i.e. they weren’t pillars of the Muslim community) didn’t get reported by their own community, the girls were failed by the parents, the police and social workers.
We can all get rightfully angry about sexual predators but the majority of the news coverage has failed to highlight the fact these girls were treated appallingly by those meant to protect them.
The good muslims don’t report the evil, they say nothing because they know under the laws of islam it is OK to treat unbelievers this way and to speak up would mark them as an apostate.
How did we come to know about this scandal, the rapes and terrible exploitation of thousands of young girls and the multi agency multi decade cover up??
We know about this now because Tommy and a few others put it all on the line and spoke up, he spoke up for his children and ours and for this, he is a political prisoner.
i've posted this here so all visitors to this site can see info relating to the great expansion.. the kealba kingdom hall in st albans will be sold.
perhaps worth around au1.4 million dollars.
on two blocks of suburban land with off street parking.
Balcacer - Both of these halls are in Melbourne Australia.
today the dutch house of representatives unanimously voted to petition the government to start an investigation into jw child abuse issues.. the request from the house of reps. came after jw nl refused to listen to repeated and serious requests from the government to start an independent investigation themselves.. now it's up to the government to either accept the request by the house of reps. and start an investigation, or refuse to do so and explain to the house why.
it appears the minister of justice is not unwilling to start an investigation though.... collection of dutch news items here.
Doubter, here is another way to look at it, where I live in Australia we have very strong work place health and safety laws that are designed to reduce on the job accidents and injuries.
As an employer I must have documented operating procedures and systems in place to identify and eliminate unsafe work practices, for the benefit of my workers.
If one of my workers suffers a serious injury or killed at work and it can be traced back to an unsafe machine or a unsafe work method etc that could have been made safe, then I would be in the line of fire for negligence.
How is the WTB$ any different, their policy is "oh you got hurt at work, have you got two witnesses?... sorry" and your report joins the huge bulge under the carpet.
i've posted this here so all visitors to this site can see info relating to the great expansion.. the kealba kingdom hall in st albans will be sold.
perhaps worth around au1.4 million dollars.
on two blocks of suburban land with off street parking.
Interesting news JTG, I wonder how long the newly renovated assembly hall will last, that place would be worth a mint, 40 Acres on the edge of the urban sprawl or as a mega mosque. https://goo.gl/maps/jaoHmdLXDyv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk8b_xqi_nm.
this is self explanatory.
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Confused -
Branding somebody as a racist is a classic tactic of the left that is used to slander and discredit somedody when you are unable to counter their argumet.
I'm surprised that you should fall for that one as all of us here as "mentally diseased apostates" are targets of a very similar attack.